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The Ilkhanids in Devizes - 4 Madaxeman Batreps

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8284.msg106898#msg106898

Published: October 4, 2024 20:21

In a truly surprising development, 4 "traditional format" read-along battle reports are now available for anyone who wishes to follow the varied exploits of a deeply smelly and unwashe...

Sutton Hoo oak in short supply...?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8283.msg106897#msg106897

Published: October 4, 2024 19:47

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.theguardian.com/culture/2024/oct/04/appeal-british-oak-recreate-sutton-hoo-burial-ship?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17280711184017&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106892#msg106892

Published: October 4, 2024 10:58

Quote from: nikgaukroger on Today at 11:10:59 AMQuote from: Aetius on October 03, 2024, 09:38:09 AMThank you for the discussion. I will give my units one round of pila throwing before contact as I think this is the most accurate. Pila ar...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106891#msg106891

Published: October 4, 2024 10:10

Quote from: Aetius on October 03, 2024, 09:38:09 AMThank you for the discussion. I will give my units one round of pila throwing before contact as I think this is the most accurate. Pila are strong in the games I am thinking about. I don't want them...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106889#msg106889

Published: October 4, 2024 08:47

Just checking out the rules I have on pila. I don't like to change them unless for a very good reason but some armies are too strong with multiple pila throws with high impact. Think I will limit them to one throw...John

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106887#msg106887

Published: October 4, 2024 06:30

Are you actually attempting to model pila ?Do you extend that to other non romans with similar recorded capability?If you are considering ammunition (2), do you also consider the stated ammunition carried by velites (7) also?There are very conflicti...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106872#msg106872

Published: October 3, 2024 11:41

Quote from: Nick Harbud on October 02, 2024, 03:33:30 PMOf course, if you go for the later legionaries you also have to think about where the martiobarbuli and javelins come into the game mechanisms.  WRG 6th Ed allowed legionaries to use...

Which Wars of the Roses or 100 Years War Battle would you like me to bring

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8280.msg106870#msg106870

Published: October 3, 2024 10:08

Hi allI have agreed to put on a Test of Resolve game at the Convention.  I can put on virtually any Wars of the Roses battle and a good selection of 14th Century 100 Years Wars battles.I am open to requestsIf there is time and space (I am new to thi...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106869#msg106869

Published: October 3, 2024 08:38

Thank you for the discussion. I will give my units one round of pila throwing before contact as I think this is the most accurate. Pila are strong in the games I am thinking about. I don't want them to act as skirmishers and wear their opponents down b...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106861#msg106861

Published: October 2, 2024 14:33

Of course, if you go for the later legionaries you also have to think about where the martiobarbuli and javelins come into the game mechanisms.  WRG 6th Ed allowed legionaries to use everything they had; darts, javelins, pila, golf bag, a ba...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106860#msg106860

Published: October 2, 2024 14:23

I don't know if there's any evidence for or against it actually being done, but there's nothing forcing all men in a formation to throw their pila at the same time, so a unit of legionaries could launch three or more volleys if they weren't all full-st...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106847#msg106847

Published: October 2, 2024 12:12

There are various ways to construct Roman infantry combat - it seems a popular discussion point not just among wargamers but also professional historians.  A quick search will find many of those ideas have been discussed before on the forum.  One thing...

Re: How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106845#msg106845

Published: October 2, 2024 11:29

That might be a false premise. Unless the enemy broke before or immediately on contact, quite possible, even likely, that both pila would have been thrown in quick succession. In wargames terms, a single round of combat.  Especially if you are using li...

How many Pila did a Roman Soldier carry?

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8277.msg106840#msg106840

Published: October 2, 2024 10:03

I am making up some house rules for my games so I would like to know how many pila a Roman in a cohort would carry or a Hastati or Principes? I am thinking of allowing them to fire only once but want to know if they carried more than one pila? The reas...

Re: Glutter of Ravens, discounted on Wargames Vault

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8275.msg106838#msg106838

Published: October 2, 2024 07:48

Quote from: Imperial Dave on October 01, 2024, 06:34:58 PMAlready got and well worth getting in my opinionI have a sneaking suspicion I sold it to you, but I may be mistaken 😁

Re: Little Battles 2024

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=7604.msg106835#msg106835

Published: October 2, 2024 07:38

If you've ever been to Maldon you will know that when the tide slurps (as opposed to rolls) in the on-shore breeze brings with it dark clouds, salty rain and squawking seagulls. As it ebbs, the sun tends to come out again along with the smell of fresh ...

Isle of Man Viking coin hoard

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8276.msg106833#msg106833

Published: October 1, 2024 17:56

https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx24p3v41zro.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17278052851579&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.comNice...

Glutter of Ravens, discounted on Wargames Vault

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8275.msg106830#msg106830

Published: October 1, 2024 15:35

https://www.wargamevault.com/product/467352/Glutter-of-Ravens-Warfare-in-the-Age-of-Arthur?src=DotDemDan Mersey's 'Glutter of Ravens' is on discount at Wargames Vault over the next 24 hours or so.You cannot view this attachment.

Re: Medieval Cuneus

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8274.msg106827#msg106827

Published: October 1, 2024 14:47

It is, of course, famously used of English archers at Agincourt.  Much has been written about whether it is meant literally as "wedge".  However, the usual medieval meaning seems to have been "body of troops".  As Matt Bennett long ago pointed out, the...

Medieval Cuneus

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8274.msg106825#msg106825

Published: October 1, 2024 14:28

I've just been reading a recent book on Montaperti. Regarding the Germans, the author quotes"et hinc in partis cuneis militum... aquilarum victricium insignis explicati, invocata sublimi glorisi Dei iustitia... nec non fortuna regia que conterendam re...

The Size and Organisation of the Equites Legionis and Equites Singulares

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8273.msg106811#msg106811

Published: October 1, 2024 12:11

Here is a link to my latest uploaded paper on Academia.https://www.academia.edu/124269078/The_Size_and_Organisation_of_the_Equites_Legionis_and_the_Equites_SingularesHappy to discuss this further if anyone is interested.

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106804#msg106804

Published: October 1, 2024 11:46

Polybius:"The armour of the Libyans was Roman, for Hannibal had armed them with a selection of the spoils taken in previous battles.""ἦν δ᾽ ὁ καθοπλισμὸς τῶν μὲν Λιβύων Ῥωμαϊκός, οὓς πάντας Ἀννίβας τοῖς ἐκ τῆς προγεγενημένης μάχης σκύλοις ἐκλέξας κατ...

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106795#msg106795

Published: October 1, 2024 06:15

I think the change is reported as using captured Roman equipment, rather than just as changing to Roman tactics.From memory, the implication was that the training was consequential to the re equipping, not the primary motivation of itself with some me...

Manzikert/Malazgirt battlefield

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8269.msg106793#msg106793

Published: October 1, 2024 05:37

https://www.heritagedaily.com/2024/09/archaeologists-find-physical-traces-of-the-battle-of-malazgirt/153541Not much in the article but fascinating what they will uncover with time hopefully

Re: Little Battles 2024

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=7604.msg106790#msg106790

Published: September 30, 2024 23:01

David / dwkay57,Wow! What a tabletop. Love your battle-report style. Excellent and great link we can all enjoy.Was it just my eyesight or were some pages (3-5?) darker than others?OK, I know these are tiny men, but a close up of a victor or two or o...

Re: South Wales and the Wars of the Roses

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8267.msg106787#msg106787

Published: September 30, 2024 21:07

Quote from: Imperial Dave on Today at 09:32:48 PMOk...not such a good article...  Given I didn't track down the Welsh bit, it's hard to say.  The introductory bit about the internal conflicts, Cade, ambushing wedding parties a...

Re: South Wales and the Wars of the Roses

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8267.msg106785#msg106785

Published: September 30, 2024 19:00

The map is of South Wales.  Perhaps, if you subscribe, the Welsh bit is in the remainder of the article?BTW, couldn't they have found a re-enactor with WotR kit for the picture?  That pastiche 14th century helmet is very unconvincing and the camail co...

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106781#msg106781

Published: September 30, 2024 16:24

Quote from: Erpingham on Today at 03:25:30 PMQuote from: DBS on Today at 02:19:53 PMpoint is that the pilum was not necessarily a battle winning wonder weapon (as some rules tend to favour) if Mr Barca felt no great compulsion to...

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106779#msg106779

Published: September 30, 2024 14:25

Quote from: DBS on Today at 02:19:53 PMpoint is that the pilum was not necessarily a battle winning wonder weapon (as some rules tend to favour) if Mr Barca felt no great compulsion to adopt it. As not a specialist in this period, I...

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106775#msg106775

Published: September 30, 2024 13:19

I suspect they did, point is that the pilum was not necessarily a battle winning wonder weapon (as some rules tend to favour) if Mr Barca felt no great compulsion to adopt it. Is that the same incident when there is the faint suggestion that Marcellus'...

Re: Wye Bridge is Roman

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8265.msg106770#msg106770

Published: September 30, 2024 11:24

Quote from: Imperial Dave on Today at 09:17:50 AMhttps://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/24615410.archaeological-society-present-wye-roman-bridge-findings/Happy as pigs in mud...Ych-a-fi gwichlyd (squelchy?).

Re: Arthur's Stone yields evidence of stone circle

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8264.msg106769#msg106769

Published: September 30, 2024 11:21

No Stones either by the look of it - reused somewhere else perhaps? I wonder if they can find out from the shapes of the holes as that chap did for some of the stones taken from west Wales to Stonehenge?

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106767#msg106767

Published: September 30, 2024 10:24

I still think that the incident in Plutarch, Marcellus 12, where some Punic infantry use thrusting-spears at a date after the Cannae "re-equipment in Roman armour", is best explained by the Africans retaining their original weapons.

Trent bridge

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8266.msg106764#msg106764

Published: September 30, 2024 08:19

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/nottingham-news/old-trent-bridge-ruins-ancient-9585010?gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AWsEHT5NYuz8p4iunJpWzb5TG7O84LecxsmxWlaHds962VRRc59ns_n7pFOtEdyDTYg%3D&gaa_ts=66fa61f1&utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=discover&utm_campaign=C...

Round houses evidence from Cornwall dig

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8263.msg106758#msg106758

Published: September 30, 2024 07:50

https://www-cornwalllive-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/archaeological-evidence-found-round-houses-9544060.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17276824337712&csi=0&referrer=http...

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106757#msg106757

Published: September 30, 2024 07:45

Quote from: Jim Webster on Today at 06:47:53 AMWhen you look at some of the Veterans, if you assume Italians and Spanish were numbered among them, it would mean the Veterans were used to a more flexible style of warfare.And even the...

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106754#msg106754

Published: September 30, 2024 05:47

Quote from: Mark G on September 29, 2024, 07:49:10 PMSo if we exclude pila, and we assume similarity in other equipment, does that just leave smaller combat movement units?When you look at some of the Veterans, if you assume Italians and Spa...

Re: Ancient Chinese cheese....

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8262.msg106729#msg106729

Published: September 29, 2024 12:13

Quote from: Duncan Head on Today at 10:51:32 AMAh - I thought the headline sounded odd, cheese is not generally a "Chinese" specialty; but of course this is found with one of the Tarim mummies in Xinjiang, so a "Europoid" probably Tocharian...

Re: Ancient Chinese cheese....

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8262.msg106727#msg106727

Published: September 29, 2024 09:51

Ah - I thought the headline sounded odd, cheese is not generally a "Chinese" specialty; but of course this is found with one of the Tarim mummies in Xinjiang, so a "Europoid" probably Tocharian-speaking population, not Han Chinese.

Ancient Chinese cheese....

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8262.msg106720#msg106720

Published: September 29, 2024 05:16

https://www-nbcnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna172805?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17275868565053&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%...

Re: Battle of Chrysopolis, 324 AD: 1700th Anniversary, Sep 18

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8194.msg106715#msg106715

Published: September 29, 2024 02:02

If your refight wins the final battle, then ipso facto, you can conclude you must have won all the earlier ones as well. Empire secured, posterity safe.

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106714#msg106714

Published: September 28, 2024 23:04

Perhaps also worth considering the degree to which the Libyans and Spanish who departed Spain under Hannibal were still likely to have been using the same kit by the time of Cannae anyway, regardless of battlefield loot.  There is specific reference to...

Re: Geoglyphs in Atacama desert defiled

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8259.msg106711#msg106711

Published: September 28, 2024 20:37

Just come from the article about the French knocking down their standing stones and find this distressing article. It's not as if ignorance is acceptable as an excuse, their value has been well known for many years, these people just don't care. Nick i...

French standing stones knocked down for DIY shop!

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8261.msg106707#msg106707

Published: September 28, 2024 17:55

https://metro-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/metro.co.uk/2024/09/28/ancient-stones-in-france-older-than-stonehenge-knocked-down-for-diy-shop-21594102/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17275459824585&csi=0&referre...

Re: Viking violence compared

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8260.msg106703#msg106703

Published: September 28, 2024 15:53

Ivar Ragnusson was really a kind, sympathetic and much misunderstood man.  Still waiting for the apology and financial compensation for the ancestors taken and sold into slavery by Scanda...

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106694#msg106694

Published: September 28, 2024 12:19

Doesn't have to be triarii kit. All three Roman "heavy" types use the same shields, the mailshirts would be worn by both principes and triarii by and large (being based on wealth) and they could keep their own spears. Re-arming with Roman gladii is pro...

Re: Geoglyphs in Atacama desert defiled

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8259.msg106692#msg106692

Published: September 28, 2024 11:46

You would have thought that there is enough desert available to conduct one's races elsewhere.Of course, defilement of ancient works is by no means restricted to South America.  For example, many Nabatean monuments, not to mention the [url="https://en...

Re: Hannibal's Veterans Armed as Triarii

https://soa.org.uk/sm/index.php?topic=8252.msg106682#msg106682

Published: September 27, 2024 19:40

Well, the African veterans armed with thrusting spears was what I went for in AMPW, and I have come across no real new evidence since that would make me change my mind. Still, there is no direct evidence, so many things remain possible.

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