CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /chatGPZ
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Published: May 18, 2026 18:25
But we already have Moloch?
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CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /chatGPZ
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Published: May 18, 2026 18:25
But we already have Moloch?
CSDb Entries: Group id #5384 : SDC Cracking Crew /chatGPZ
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Published: May 18, 2026 15:59
Also the best way to make sure it will NOT get deleted, is pointing out how it is connected to a "real" scener :D
CSDb Entries: Group id #5384 : SDC Cracking Crew /iAN CooG
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Published: May 18, 2026 09:14
We all started that way. No need to be ashamed. Or be ashamed but doesn't change anything, it is what it is. =)
CSDb Entries: Group id #5384 : SDC Cracking Crew /Fred
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Published: May 18, 2026 06:48
Quoting VaiI know it's part of c64 history, but should they be listed on CSDb? Yes because it is part of the scene. There are many entries here that are ripp offs.
CSDb Entries: Group id #5384 : SDC Cracking Crew /hedning
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Published: May 18, 2026 06:42
Yes. Ofc they stay.
CSDb Entries: Group id #5384 : SDC Cracking Crew /Vai
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Published: May 17, 2026 23:50
And yes, I'm the one responsible for creating this group... I'm already running away for the responses on this :)
CSDb Entries: Group id #5384 : SDC Cracking Crew /Vai
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Published: May 17, 2026 23:45
Clearly this isn't a scener group as how we know it. They probably started as we all did, take other programs and changed the text and some graphics. The difference is that we have learned from that to create our own. I know it's part of c64 history, but…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /4gentE
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Published: May 17, 2026 13:55
…while the rest of you train Leviathan.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /emarti
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Published: May 17, 2026 12:18
Start taking it seriously and train your dogs.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /4gentE
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Published: May 17, 2026 12:17
Quote:Popular belief is that she's very much a woman. Tbh this photo sorta makes one wonder.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /Krill
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Published: May 17, 2026 02:05
Quoting Oswaldthats from Sarah Connor, who is - against popular belief - a woman.Popular belief is that she's very much a woman.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /4gentE
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Published: May 17, 2026 00:22
Well, Oswald, you obviously haven’t watched the movie. That was John Connor’s message from the future to his mom, a message carried by the reprogrammed terminator.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /chatGPZ
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Published: May 16, 2026 23:40
Well, you never know :D
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /Oswald
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Published: May 16, 2026 23:29
thats from Sarah Connor, who is - against popular belief - a woman.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /4gentE
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Published: May 16, 2026 09:04
Or as a wise man said: “The future's not set. There's no fate but what we make for ourselves.”
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /mankeli
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Published: May 15, 2026 23:32
yes please
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /emarti
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Published: May 15, 2026 23:11
No matter what people do, sooner or later someone will build AI agents that bypass those restrictions anyway. What are we going to do next, put dogs at the entrance like in Terminator to detect machines? :)
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /ws
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Published: May 15, 2026 22:40
Maybe a statement in an EULA would only be a sign, but perhaps a good sign? I second a "no permission to train ai" although i find the use of ai for certain purposes absolutely valid. But what i dont like is the making money with everything attitude. I…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /MuZZa
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Published: May 15, 2026 21:13
@4gent I totally agree with you (Weird, isn’t it? :-). It was actually a response to @iAN CooG, who mistakenly dropped a completely wrong “fact”: Quote:CSDb archives illegal software (cracks) and public domain software where nobody have or can claim any…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /4gentE
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Published: May 15, 2026 17:08
Fuck copyright. The whole “artist vs. techbros” fight is tainted with copyright invocation. This should not be about copyright. This should be about ethics. Do artists really think the likes of Disney are on their side? It’s a battle of one unethical…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /MuZZa
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Published: May 15, 2026 16:45
@Krill you're right, in principle, you still retain the copyright to whatever you uploaded to CSDB, unless you explicitly agreed to a transfer of rights or to a very broad license when uploading it. Uploading a work to a website does not normally transfer…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /chatGPZ
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Published: May 15, 2026 16:30
They are the italian sort of public domain :o)
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /Krill
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Published: May 15, 2026 16:24
Demos aren't public domain.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /iAN CooG
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Published: May 15, 2026 13:50
CSDb archives illegal software (cracks) and public domain software where nobody have or can claim any ownership on it. Deal with it. End of the story.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /MuZZa
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Published: May 15, 2026 11:30
well yes, to some extent, “everything is political” everything is shaped by human decisions and social structures. @4gent I recognize that this idea can become exaggerated when it’s used to turn every conversation, hobby, or personal gesture into a…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /Dr. TerrorZ
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Published: May 15, 2026 10:59
My vague and un-informed opinion is, that this is Karma for me copying massive amounts of games and software in the 1980s/1990s. So I'm not sure if it matters that much if my material is now being fuckered somewhere by an AI. So ok, we forced a kind of…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /4gentE
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Published: May 14, 2026 15:21
If giving a symbolic middle finger with no weight at all behind it to brutal aggression from all-powerful capital destroying the planet is “politics”, then absolutely everything is “politics”. With which I don’t disagree.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /MuZZa
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Published: May 14, 2026 11:10
I don’t want to sow discord, and this's my humble opinion, but after decades of a wide range of free services of all kinds designed to collect information for free, built on technological infrastructures created and governed under private control…
C64 Coding: IFLI+2C /Isildur
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Published: May 13, 2026 22:24
I tested all laced modes recently and believe me there's no point to use more than Multicolor Interlace (drazlace) except challenge ;)
C64 Coding: IFLI+2C /YTM
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Published: May 13, 2026 11:42
I played with this idea. There is just enough cycles in each line to switch $d011/$d018 for FLI, $d021 for background and also $01 for: - 1 shared background colour ($d021 %00) across the line - 2 unique colours per 8x1 (screen RAM %01, %10) - 2 more…
C64 Pixeling: What happened to mcDRAW? /Eddie
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Published: May 13, 2026 09:28
Thanks... I somewhere found mcdraw.xyz as the official site, probably outdated...
C64 Pixeling: What happened to mcDRAW? /Dr.Science
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Published: May 12, 2026 14:56
https://csdb.dk/release/?id=261254 could also be interesting?
C64 Pixeling: What happened to mcDRAW? /Shine
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Published: May 12, 2026 13:48
Well, https://zoopersoft.com/mcdraw/ seems to work here ... .. . :)
C64 Pixeling: What happened to mcDRAW? /Eddie
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Published: May 12, 2026 12:26
I was just looking for online editors for c64 graphics and mcDRAW looked interesting, but the 'official' website seems to be gone/hacked/whatever, I only see something about betting sites and no c64 love there. Any ideas what happened? Any (probably)…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /WVL
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Published: May 12, 2026 10:49
my 2 cents. I agree it's not nice that AI trains on CSDb data, but I would think it's a very bad idea to close CSDb for non-users. It is very hard to get an account nowadays, even for people who had account previously and are now now locked out because of…
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /TBH
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Published: May 12, 2026 01:54
Is it possible that parts of the database content could be "poisoned" for AI - analogous to how it is sometimes done with online artwork? The payload perhaps only being provided to visitors and new members (for a probationary period)?
CSDb Discussions: Giveaway: 6x C64, 1x VC-20, 1x C16 + Tons of Disks, Accessories, Literature /wil
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Published: May 11, 2026 22:07
I know it is not my business, but why does the young man need six C64 to dive into computer history? In my time, we had only one computer, and when we wanted to use it, we had to fight for the only TV in the house.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /wil
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Published: May 11, 2026 14:45
Ok for me. Please send back the stamps.
CSDb Discussions: Use of CSDb Data for AI training purposes /hedning
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Published: May 11, 2026 11:41
It's too late, and all data from CSDb have been spread, and is available elsewhere anyways. Only way to stay out of it is to go back to swapping flops. Want to swap, ws? :D I would love to.